Ms Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor & Applicant
AVO case, Cross-examination

Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Just before I proceed with that I just want to ask you a couple of other questions about some documents which I had the opportunity to look at a little more closely overnight if I might and then I will take you back to 17 October. Can I had you exhibit 7 please? That is the exhibit which your counsel has tendered which is the MSN exchange between you and Brandon Garrett, isn’t it?
Applicant:	Yes.
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Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	You said to this person who you didn’t know, that is right, at that time?
Applicant:	Yeah.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	You had never met this person. “I’ve always escaped reality with make believe.” Is that right?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	You then say, “But I wouldn’t call it acting in everyday life” and he responds “And you do it very well” and you say, “More like creative exaggeration”. Correct?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Going to the next page down at the entry for 12.05.34 you say to this person “I’m a compulsive habitual liar”?
Applicant:	Yeah.
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Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	“then I began to believe it” and he says, “The trouble with genius” and you say, “My therapist says liar, I say daydreamer”. You see that?
Applicant:	Yes
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	A little bit further down at 12.08.02 you say, “Sometimes I think back to something that happened in the past and it takes a few minutes for me to realise that it’s entirely made up.” You said that?
Applicant:	yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	A little further down at 12.09.48 this unknown person says to you “so your stage is not confined to the theatre”. You see that?
Applicant:	Yeah.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	“You live it” and you said, “Yeah. What about you, do you live it?” He says, “I’m fascinated by this” and then you say to this unknown person “I’m a nut case basically”, right?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	A little further then you say, “Clinically”, correct?
Applicant:	Yeah.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Go over to the next page please. Just before that at 12.11 you tell this person “I get a lot of professional help”?
Applicant:	Yeah.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	He says, “How do you handle people believing you? Are you that good? What help” and then on the next page you say 12.12.48am. [Applicant] “I have to stop it now”. He says, “Why?” You say, “It was getting too serious”. He says, “Why? I find it fascinating” and you say at 12.13.08 “Because I was believing my made up stories.” He says, “Yeah. How do you handle that?” You say, “That’s not good. Well I’ve basically stopped making shit up”. He says, “But how do you handle the stuff you have? How do you act?” You say at 12.14.32 “Psychotherapy”. He says, “What do you do there?” You say, “Talk, tell the truth. I’m not allowed to embellish or anything”. He says at 12.15.15 “How do you know what the truth is?” and you say, “I know because it’s boring.” Correct?
Applicant:	Yes.
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Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Ms [Applicant], do you know the difference between truth and lies?
Applicant:	Yes I do.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	This person at the end of the MSN was a complete stranger wasn’t he?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Are you sure about that?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	You would confide those types of things about yourself to somebody whom you had no idea who they were?
Applicant:	Yes, I’m very open.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Very open, very honest?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	That was very honest wasn’t it?
Applicant:	Yeah.
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Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	Is drama something that gave you the ability to make things upon the spot?
Applicant:	Yes.
Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor:	I want to suggest to you that in the course of these proceedings in answer to my questions you have been making things up on the spot?
Applicant:	No.

published 20/8/2009

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