| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
You said earlier that Karli Stevenson was a close friend? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
With whom you had created a trust? |
| Applicant: |
Yes |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
You respected her? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
I take it that the trust was based on a sense of mutual respect? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
And a belief in one another’s honesty? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Is that right? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
You believe her to be a very honest person? |
| Applicant: |
I did |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Do you agree with me that in a meeting with Karli Stevenson on 13 March 2007 you confided in Karli that you had been throughout your life a compulsive liar? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
I show you a document. You don’t need to read all of this document, I’d just like you to have a look at it and reflect back to 13 March 2007. Do you see that document? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
That is a transcript of the conversation that you had with Karli Stevenson on 13 March 2007 which was recorded, isn’t it? |
| Applicant: |
I can see that. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Is the answer yes? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
That records a lengthy conversation you had with Karli Stevenson on 13 March, doesn’t it? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
In that conversation you were having a very candid and honest discussion with her about, amongst other things, your history of lying. Isn’t that right? |
| Applicant: |
I haven’t read it all. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Go to page 7, or page 8? |
| Applicant: |
Which part? |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
There is a discussion there about lying, isn’t there? |
| Applicant: |
Page 7? |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Top of page 8, Karli says, “But they are all lies” and you say “Mm-Hmm”. See that?
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| Applicant: |
Yes. |
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| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Then you say, “It’s a whole thing of mine” correct? |
| Applicant: |
Mm-hmm. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
Karli says, “Yes, it works with mum and dad”, you say, “It works with everyone, I’m the best at it, I can admit that, I lie to everyone.” That’s true, correct? |
| Applicant: |
Yes. |
| Hamilton-Dyers’ Solicitor: |
That is what you said to her? |
| Applicant: |
It is. |